we all understand because of newtown, tragdelibecause of newertown, the focus and the energy is there finally. but we have got to follow the money to use a well quoted phrase. both public pension funds, which we talked about before and that we are acting on here in new york and california we have to stop the flow of public money into the gun industry through investments. the piece we are working on now is some of the biggest names in the american financial industry routinely include in their investment mix, you know, the same companies that are part of the problem. again, they are not just part of the problem because they create the guns and ammunition. the mil grade weapons and put them on the civilian market but even more part of the problem because they fund the political apparatus in the nra that keeps everything stuck in place the way it is now. >> so are you calling on -- have you called on these -- the dirty dozen, as you call them, to divest their holdings in these gun manufacturers? >> caller: absolutely. we see evidence that the public pressure is already beginning to rattle